If I can’t hate irresponsible medical practitioners mutilating children, who can I hate?

yep, that’s who this sub hates. not trans people. people think it’s a hate sub aimed at trans people because some people here have gender critical opinions, which is stupid, because there is no blatant hate being spewed here, only facts. whether you agree with them or not, it’s not hate, it’s people trying to prevent the very real harm that medical transition can have on people, it comes from a place of caring and concern, not hate! whether you agree with their opinions or not.

exactly what i was thinking :/ people’s opinions and feelings toward this subreddit don’t matter more than the detransitioners who have been helped by this subreddit. until i found this subreddit i thought the only option for opting out of being trans and miserable because of it was killing myself. i thought i was alone with my experiences. i have received nothing but kindness and support here from people with all different kinds of views some of which i agree with and some of which i do not. this isn’t the place for people’s political agendas and it shouldn’t be written off as such. people need to grow the hell up and learn to exist in harmony with people with different opinions without crying oppression or ignore people with different opinions if they must but stop fucking looking at this sub if it triggers you ffs.

as i said to another commenter: i don’t care about why the reputation is there, that’s still not what this sub is about and still doesn’t negate the good it does. a lot of people boldly stating that nobody ought to transition have been traumatised by transitioning or by a loved one transitioning. they’re hurting. let them be. nobody has to look at this sub.

for example, there is a subreddit dedicated to people who have/had loved ones with a particular personality disorder i have and a good chunk of the posts on there are very hateful towards those that have that personally disorder. spreading the stigma that everyone with said disorder is a psychopathic monster. it’s upsetting for me to look at because i take my meds and go to therapy and try hard to be a good person instead of taking out untreated mental illness on my loved ones. but it’s not about me. the people posting on that subreddit are people who have been deeply hurt by people with that disorder. as an adult it’s my responsibility to keep myself away from something triggering and let people have their safe space because it’s not about my feelings.

thank you for sharing. you definitely made me feel better. i had my first laser session today and the face really hurt though everywhere else was ok. the laser woman said that when my hormone levels are back within healthy female range there’s a chance i may not need any long term maintenance on the areas that weren’t hairy pre t. i wasn’t sure whether to believe theres a chance or not because of course there’s not much info out there for us detransitioners so i had no idea of anyone’s personal experience with body hair and detransitioning. i was on t for 4 years less than you too so this is awesome to see. your story has encouraged me to eat better and exercise, and it’s interesting that you said you started drinking a lot more water because the laser woman said that drinking plenty of water would help my hormone levels balance out and my skin be healthier and i wasn’t sure how true that is either. she isn’t trans and has never identified as such but had high t levels for a female due to a medical condition so she wasn’t just talking out of her ass but her experience is still different enough i couldn’t be sure.

you don’t need to condescend me by calling me naive. i never said it belongs here just, to paraphrase, it’s not always 'very rude'. that’s not my point, though. my point is that this is a subreddit for detransitioners and gender critical people coming here and being rude shouldn’t factor into banning this helpful space entirely. thinking the problem can be solved by censorship is naive, if anything. deleting subreddits doesn’t change anyone’s opinions. people just move to different platforms. there is no “solving” the fact people have different opinions.

eh, i don’t think i’m still 'very confused.' refer to one of my other replies about the pronouns;

they’re mostly just there for a few friends who don’t mind switching it up. not going to even go there with older relatives or anything! it’s easier for almost everyone else to and more comfortable i imagine to use she/her and i’m fine with that! it might be really hard for most people to refer to someone they barely know as it without feeling disrespectful!

there’s no harm in a few close friends using self chosen pronouns for me if they want. i don’t want anyone to guess i’m bigender (haven’t even decided if that’s the right term for me). that may be how i may feel in my head privately, but i thought i made it clear i have decided to live in the real world completely as a girl without trying to complicate things. i don’t want to be a 'mystical non binary unicorn' or anything of the sorts and i think i’ll be wearing more dresses and skirts than skater jeans anyways, i really missed them! definitely not going to continue T or amputate my boobs. i’m really glad i worked this out before getting them removed actually, i’ve seen some who haven’t been as fortunate.

thank you, for the first time in awhile i feel happiness and contentment is in my reach.

Why? Because methods for FtMs are underdeveloped compared to MtFs.

i also think it’s because testosterone is a lot worse for a natal female body than estrogen is for a natal male body. testosterone just causes more health problems in general as opposed to estrogen as well.

i honestly have gotten an entirely different impression and experience from this sub. i’m not going to continue this debate after this comment because i’ve spent hours on this sub and my conclusion is final. you’re entitled to your opinion, message the mods if you want to try change the climate. a user poll would just be brigaded by TRAs. gotta say two last things, accusation of perversion towards mtfs aren’t normalised, you make it sound like violent hate is spewed but it’s mostly just stuff like abused females needing same sex bathrooms to feel safe and the whole monologue is promoted over dialogue thing is ironic as hell because that appears in every trans echo chamber.

i’m not gender critical myself but i am willing to stand with all detransitioners to defend our safe space. detransitioners have a goddamn right to be gender critical when the TRA movement fucked them over so bad. being gender critical doesn’t automatically mean you spill aggressive hate towards trans people and i wish people would stop using it as a synonym for bigot. also having different opinions isn’t really hate unless it’s your opinion that Hitler was a great guy or something. i don’t like how the commenter who replied to you said “you need to keep an eye on the radical feminist population here” no we fucking don’t. we need to keep an eye out for blatant hate and TRAs coming here to promote the very thing that destroyed some of us. a lot radical feminist allies here fucking support us destransitioners better than trans people support us and i don’t want them gone, some of them are really nice and supportive (actually in my experience, all of them. but some people claim otherwise so idk.) and have commented on my posts with things that have made my day. this is not a fucking hate group.

it’s just that people often automatically assume females are weak and overemotional and automatically assume males are strong and stoic. i know you can’t escape weakness and emotions by becoming a man. it’s just a pre-perception/stereotype thing that bothered me.