Oh man, the amount of times it was outright said and implied that “well I act and look like a woman so therefore I am a woman” in the community like that ain’t some extremely regressive shit is crazy. I think trans women who pass can get a taste of misogyny on surface level (ex: catcalling) but it certainly couldn’t be compared to being born female and having misogynistic expectations already set out for you. It feels like to validate part of the trans experience you have to accept that there is a wrong and right way to be woman or a man which..yeah.

I’ve been asking this question to myself for a while now. So many trans people are so against medical gatekeeping which I find to be concerning as fuck. They say “well I will kill myself if I don’t have it” but what guarantee do you have that you won’t kill yourself from a surgery gone wrong, that doesn’t make you feel like you are “in the right body” at all? For the most part, in the current climate, I really don’t see it as ethical to perform these surgeries. I ain’t going to vote to ban it or to even restrict it because I don’t have enough evidence to really back up what I believe (only my own experience and the ones of other desister and detransitioners) but that is my honest opinion. Like you said, a shit ton of trans people have other mental health issues that certainly should not be ignored by medical professionals.

Oh yeah for sure. Transmisogyny in my opinion is simply just a mix of misandry, discrimination against the mentally ill, discrimination against the gender nonconforming, and sometimes even homophobia (because, if I remember correctly, back then gay people were automatically thought of as perverts for using bathroom of the sex they were attracted to despite it being the bathroom they had to use). It’s not necessarily misogyny as the name suggests.

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Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense. In a way I would say the community fueled the hatred I had for being female too. There were so many trans men who would mock any other trans man who were more accepting of their female anatomy and experience, which looking back on it now is insane. How is telling someone to alter their body over a mental problem more sane than accepting your body but using a weird cringy label? I could never understand that now. I once literally saw someone say that anyone who didn’t want to get bottom surgery was a pussy and that they would do it by any means necessary. Like, how is this type of behavior genuinely approved in these spaces? It’s concerning enough for me to question the ethics of letting someone do this kind of surgery so impulsively and carelessly.

Yeah for sure! It’s quite embarrassing to admit it but it is extremely painful growing up female. Female spaces are certainly important and it’s sad that so many who had desisted and detransitioned felt they couldn’t be in them without severe scrutiny. These spaces peer pressure/encourage others into denying their own sex which I can’t see being very healthy. There are plenty of “true transsexuals” that aren’t afraid of expressing who they were and are and those are the one who seem the least insecure and most successful with their transition (at least in my opinion). There’s a lot of trans people who will mock those with disorder like the one where one thinks they should become disabled (don’t remember the name) saying “you are making a mockery of real disabled people” but think they are somehow different from that in terms of the sex they are trying to mimic. I don’t think anyone is a terrible person for having either of these disorders because you truly can’t control those urges but one has to be aware the utter hypocrisy of all of this.