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Reddit user /u/Pleasant_Planter's Detransition Story

Transitioned: 22 -> Detransitioned: 25
female
hated breasts
took hormones
regrets transitioning
influenced online
got top surgery
now infertile
started as non-binary
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About me

I was born female and my discomfort with my body, especially my breasts, led me to explore transitioning and take testosterone for a short time. I stopped when my voice began to change, but I kept the permanent bottom growth, which made me happy. I later had top surgery after I stopped identifying as trans, realizing I could be a woman without breasts. I now see my body as my own and understand that how I express myself doesn't change my identity as a woman. I am finally at peace, a masculine woman who changed my body for my own comfort, not to fit a label.

My detransition story

My journey with my body and gender has been complicated, but I’ve come to a place of peace with who I am. I was born female and for a long time, I felt a lot of discomfort with parts of my body, especially my chest. I hated my breasts. They caused me physical pain and sensory issues, and I felt they didn't belong on me. This led me to explore transitioning. I identified as non-binary for a time and then as a trans man. I started taking testosterone, but only for a short period—about four months. I used a low dose of T-gel, 12.5mg daily, because I wanted the changes to be gradual and easy to stop if I saw effects I didn’t like.

My main goal with testosterone was never to become a man. I’ve always identified as a woman. I wanted bottom growth because I was already larger than average down there and wanted to increase that size. It made me much happier and more comfortable. I stopped the T as soon as I started noticing my voice cracking, around the four-month mark. The bottom growth was permanent, which was what I wanted, and the other changes reverted.

A significant part of my story is that I eventually had top surgery. But I had it after I had already stopped identifying as trans and had desisted. I realized that my desire for a flat chest didn’t mean I wasn’t a woman. I was just a woman who didn’t want breasts. The surgery helped my back pain immensely and allowed me to be more active in sports I love, like tennis, without discomfort. I don’t regret the top surgery at all; it was the right choice for my body and my comfort.

I’ve never had bottom surgery and I never would. I think the rates of regret are too high, and the risks are too severe. I’m happy with the growth I got from a short time on T.

My thoughts on gender are that it’s a social construct. How you express yourself—your clothes, your hair, your body—doesn’t have to define your identity. I’m a masculine woman. I’m comfortable with that. I also have a lot of internalized issues I had to work through. I think my discomfort with my body was partly due to societal pressures and the way women are perceived, especially assertive women with deeper voices. I’ve experienced being treated differently because of my voice, even though I’m cis.

I benefited from stepping back from transition ideology and thinking for myself. I don’t regret the path I took because it led me to where I am now, but I do think I was influenced by online spaces. I saw how people can be pushed into things, like the coordinated efforts on 4chan to convince men to transition for fetish reasons. It’s important to make these decisions for yourself with full, honest information about the risks.

I’m now infertile from the hormones, but I never wanted children, so that wasn’t a loss for me. I have some lasting effects, like body hair, which I plan to remove with laser, but overall, I’m healthy.

My main message is that you can change your body to be more comfortable without changing your core identity. You don’t need permission from any community to do what’s right for you. I’m a woman with a flat chest and a larger clit, and I’ve never been happier or more sure of myself.

Here is a timeline of my journey:

Age Event
22 Began identifying as non-binary, started exploring gender identity.
23 Socially transitioned to male.
24 Started low-dose T-gel (12.5mg daily) for bottom growth.
24 Stopped testosterone after 4 months due to voice changes.
25 Stopped identifying as trans and desisted.
26 Underwent top surgery to remove breasts.
27 Present day: Living comfortably as a masculine woman, exploring options for laser hair removal.

Top Comments by /u/Pleasant_Planter:

76 comments • Posting since June 12, 2023
Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) discusses detransition statistics, citing studies showing 11% of trans women and 4% of trans men detransition, with childhood desistance rates as high as 85%, and estimates a minimum rate of 5% based on support group sizes.
77 pointsJun 19, 2023
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Rates of detransition in adults show that 11% of transgender women and 4% of transgender men (4%) according to this study.

Studies have reported higher rates of desistance among prepubertal children. A 2016 review of 10 prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence found desistance rates ranging from 61% to 98%, with evidence suggesting that they are around 85% generally.

Personally I believe it's bare minimum 5% since there's estimated to be approximately 1 million transgender people in the U.S. and most detransition support groups on Facebook and here have around 50k-60k members which is about 5%-6%.

I don't know how anyone believes the lie it's "only 1%".

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains why calling trans women's symptoms "periods" undermines scientific integrity, women's health advocacy, and informed consent for transition.
71 pointsJun 23, 2024
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It's about scientific integrity, misrepresenting these symptoms as "periods" can undermine the scientific understanding of menstruation and the specific health needs of cisgender women. Accurate representation is crucial for medical research and advocacy efforts aimed at addressing women's health issues specifically.

I've already seen transwomen claim they know woman must be exaggerating their pain because their periods "aren't that bad." When in fact they don't experience a period at all, nor the hormone fluctuations as they're on a consistent dose of extrogenous hormones all month.

It's also about respecting experiences, acknowledging the unique experiences of both cisgender and transgender individuals without conflating them is essential. We can respect the distinct challenges each group faces while still supporting informed medical realities. If you need to lie to people to get them to respect you, or to push people into transition (as I've also seen threads where a transwomen only hangup with starting hormones was a lack of a period, and transwomen chimed in claiming they had one) then that's not informed consent or honest.

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains why a user's posts about God curing gender dysphoria are harmful, comparing it to the extremist groupthink that leads people to transition.
67 pointsMay 29, 2024
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I think the issue is that OP has made several posts claiming God can and will get rid of their gender dysphoria too.

Many people's dysphoria comes from trauma that needs to be addressed by getting away from extremist groups that promise the ability to fit in and be apart of a group that tells you what to think.

It's precisely the type of thinking that lead many of us to transition in the first place, and shoving this rhetoric down people throats- especially when many of us are gay and have bad experiences with the church, leaves an unsavory taste in most people's mouths.

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains options for reversing some effects of testosterone and mastectomies, including laser hair removal, voice training, and nerve regeneration procedures and supplements.
48 pointsAug 19, 2023
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Body hair can be lasered off and is usually permanently gone after 6-10 sessions.

Voice training can help return your voice to a similar range it was previously.

Head hair can be grown back in 6 months or less with daily Rogaine and this thickening shampoo worked very well for me and probably made my hair look 2x healthier after just using it for 2-3 weeks I noticed improvement that even my brother pointed out.

When you have a mastectomy, incisions will be made that will be used to remove the breast tissue. Avoiding the countless nerves in the breasts will be unavoidable, and once these nerves have been cut, they will no longer be able to carry messages from the breasts to the spinal cord and brain. This can result in a loss of sensation when you touch the breast area. Some people even experience what can only be described as numb breasts.

Unsurprisingly, this loss of breast sensation and the subsequent numbness that many people experience can be upsetting, both from a body image and intimacy point of view and particularly when you take the psychological and physical effects into account. Fortunately, there is a treatment that can help to overcome the issue of desensitization following a mastectomy. This is known as nerve regeneration and should be recommended to all patients following chest surgeries.

Breast nerve regeneration, also known as resensation is the most effective form of nerve repair that many people opt to have after mastectomy. It is carried out in combination with autologous breast reconstruction surgery. This is different from conventional breast augmentation since autologous reconstruction uses natural body tissues – skin, fat, and sometimes muscle from another part of the body – to create a new breast shape. Resenation focuses on reconnecting the nerves in your chest with the nerves in the tissues used to form the new breast shape. This provides them with the opportunity to regenerate and provide sensation again. Here's some anecdotes from redditors who have gotten the procedure.

I also added a magnesium supplement to my diet as there's a lot of research showing the link between nerve regeneration and higher amounts of magnesium in one's diet.

Specifically magnesium glycinate provide better absorption because this form is more water soluble than inorganic magnesium forms, therefore being more effective at regenerating nerves.

It doesn't hurt to try either considering approximately 50% of Americans consume less than the Estimated Average Requirement (EAR) for magnesium.

Another supplement that is highly regarded for nerve cell repair is Alpha-lipoic acid. Alpha-lipoic acid is a powerful antioxidant cofactor synthesized in mitochondria that helps stimulate nerves endings and regenerate nerve fibers, thus preventing disease progression.

Studies also found that alpha-lipoic acid supplements can help with neuropathy -- nerve damage -- caused by diabetes or cancer treatment. They seem to reduce symptoms like pain, tingling, and prickling in the feet and legs.

I honestly thought it was nonsense until I started it myself, the first 3 weeks nothing happened and I was ready to throw out the bottle I purchased, but then suddenly a day or two later I began to feel pricks in areas I hadn't felt anything in god knows how long. Here's some more anecdotes of people who've taken it as well. This page does a good job outlining all of its effects, both good and bad, potential interactions, etc.

Its definitely something I would consider.

Point is there's many options for treatment, healing, and repair. Be kind with yourself, these are huge procedures that can take years to settle into. You are not relegated to a lifetime of feeling broken- you've taken so many positive steps already to acknowledge where the true source of your problems lie and you will come out the other side of this. Most people never even reach your level of self awareness, knowing the problem is half the battle and you are such a strong fighter.

Change is the name of the game, nothing is permanent, not even this pain, this body, or these changes. ♡

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains how some trans women and their doctors simulate a menstrual cycle by adjusting hormone doses throughout the month.
46 pointsJun 23, 2024
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This is also entirely correct.

In fact, some trans women and their healthcare providers have choosen to attempt to simulate a hormonal cycle by adjusting hormone doses throughout the month, which is totally legal to do under medical supervision (just not common at all, as most providers don't want to do the work for that and there's no specific standard to reference.)

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) discusses kink-based misgendering on r/ftmspunished and a 4chan grooming campaign that pressured men to transition.
33 pointsJun 21, 2023
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Exactly, look at how many people are on r/ftmspunished and how much rampant "kink-based" misgendering is there just for the sake of... degradation?

It's weirdddd.

Also the fact there was a coordinated effort by at least 4 different people on 4 chan deliberately trying to get impressionable neet men to transition to get rid of their social woes knowing it wouldn't work and the individuals pressuring them to do this simply had a sissy fetish.

They made them take pictures of themselves in stockings and other such clothes and then essentially blackmailed them and threatened to doxx if they didn't continue.

User Reiko who was responsible for a large part of these events even was interviewed and didn't feel remorseful of their actions or the fact they groomed people at all.

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains Post-Mastectomy Pain Syndrome (PMPS), a chronic condition affecting 40-60% of patients, and details treatment options including trigger point injections, nerve removal surgery, nerve freezing, and specific pain management medications.
29 pointsSep 14, 2023
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This is a common complaint I hear in breast cancer survivors and frm alike, which makes sense as 40-60 percent of people who undergo a mastectomy suffer from chronic pain- in this study defined as pain lasting longer than 3 months after the original wounds have healed. This study concluded that 52% of breast cancer patients that developed Post Mastectomy pain after surgery, still had the symptoms 7-12 years after.

This is something I never hear them mention to anyone despite it being a very marked and well known fact, it's even recognized clinically as PMPS, Post-mastectomy Pain Syndrome.

Your doctors are utterly incompetent, though, because there's many effective treatments for this.

Such as, trigger point injections which has very high success rates in both the long and short term regarding pain.

Often nerve injury is also the direct cause of pain, of it is determined that is the cause you can opt for Intercostal Nerve Removal.

It's a pretty straightforward outpatient operation. Small incisions on the flank (directly under the armpit) or just to the side of the breastbone or the spine are used to gain access to small nerves that come out to the skin from between the ribs. The damaged nerves are excised, with the anticipation of resolution of the pain. The side effect, unfortunately, is numbness in the area. Most patients welcome this numbness as a welcome trade-off but that's only something you can determine is worth it for you.

Revisiting surgery after it was the cause of your problems isn't for everyone though, in which case I'd also mention that nerve freezing is another option that can offer relief.

Naproxen tends to be better at pain relief of this kind than advil or ibuprofen since its a muscle relaxant. Topical capsaicin (8% kind) or lidocaine patches or creams (5%-10%) can also help manage the pain in these areas greatly.

Complementary therapies, such as acupuncture or biofeedback have also worked for some.

In addition, it's often not told the people who undergo this surgery that in that post-recovery exercise is essential to avoid pain. Developing a stronger back helps take off the load on other areas that may be carrying the burden and therefore exerbating the pain.

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains how assertiveness in women is perceived negatively, citing studies showing they are called "bossy" or "abrasive" in 75% of performance reviews, seen as less competent, and criticized by both male and female managers.
27 pointsJun 15, 2023
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It's because assertiveness in women is perceived negatively.

Women receive "negative personality criticism," such as being called bossy or told to "watch their tone" in around 75% of performance reviews. Men, on the other hand, rarely do.

Women who are assertive or forceful are perceived as 35% less competent than non-assertive women according to a 2015 VitalSmarts study.

Women are also described as "bossy" in the workplace more often than men are, according to a US study and linguist review.

Numerous studies all agree. When a woman shows assertive traits in the workplace, such as by confidently pursuing goals, her colleagues will label her abrasive or bossy. It isn't just men doing the name-calling, either. In one of Fortune's earlier studies that compared job performance reviews of men and women, women were called "abrasive" far more often than men. But interestingly, the criticism came just as often from female as from male managers.

This relationship even extends to the voice. This study illustrates how low pitch is not perceived the same when coming from both genders, particularly in the workplace.

It could also come down the the fact that on average men prefer women with higher pitched voices, and I've firsthand seen guys call a girl hot/cute/etc. and immediately be disinterested just based on how she sounds.

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) explains nerve damage after mastectomy and details treatments like Resensation surgery and supplements (magnesium glycinate, alpha-lipoic acid) to help regenerate sensation.
27 pointsAug 12, 2023
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When you have a mastectomy, incisions will be made that will be used to remove the breast tissue. Avoiding the countless nerves in the breasts will be unavoidable, and once these nerves have been cut, they will no longer be able to carry messages from the breasts to the spinal cord and brain. This can result in a loss of sensation when you touch the breast area. Some people even experience what can only be described as numb breasts.

Unsurprisingly, this loss of breast sensation and the subsequent numbness that many people experience can be upsetting, both from a body image and intimacy point of view and particularly when you take the psychological and physical effects of cancer treatment and breast removal into account too. Fortunately, there is a treatment that can help to overcome the issue of desensitization following a mastectomy. This is known as nerve regeneration and should be recommended to all patients following chest surgeries.

Breast nerve regeneration, also known as resensation, is the most effective form of nerve repair that many people opt to have after mastectomy. It is carried out in combination with autologous breast reconstruction surgery. This is different from conventional breast augmentation since autologous reconstruction uses natural body tissues – skin, fat, and sometimes muscle from another part of the body – to create a new breast shape. Resenation focuses on reconnecting the nerves in your chest with the nerves in the tissues used to form the new breast shape. This provides them with the opportunity to regenerate and provide sensation again. Here's some anecdotes from redditors who have gotten the procedure.

I also added a magnesium supplement to my diet as there's a lot of research showing the link between nerve regeneration and higher amounts of magnesium in one's diet.

Specifically magnesium glycinate provide better absorption because this form is more water soluble than inorganic magnesium forms, therefore being more effective at regenerating nerves.

It doesn't hurt to try either considering approximately 50% of Americans consume less than the Estimated Average Requirement (EAR) for magnesium.

Another supplement that is highly regarded for nerve cell repair is Alpha-lipoic acid. Alpha-lipoic acid is a powerful antioxidant cofactor synthesized in mitochondria that helps stimulate nerves endings and regenerate nerve fibers, thus preventing disease progression.

Studies also found that alpha-lipoic acid supplements can help with neuropathy -- nerve damage -- caused by diabetes or cancer treatment. They seem to reduce symptoms like pain, tingling, and prickling in the feet and legs.

I honestly thought it was nonsense until I started it myself, the first 3 weeks nothing happened and I was ready to throw out the bottle I purchased, but then suddenly a day or two later I began to feel pricks in areas I hadn't felt anything in god knows how long. Here's some more anecdotes of people who've taken it as well. This page does a good job outlining all of its effects, both good and bad, potential interactions, etc.

Its definitely something I would consider. I've used it for 8 months now and I probably have at least 37% more sensation than I had before, and truthfully I frequently forget to take it consistently. I'm sure if I did I'd be better off now 😅

Point is there's many options for treatment, healing, and repair. Be kind with yourself, these are huge procedures that can take years to settle into. You are not relegated to a lifetime of feeling numb and broken- you've taken so many positive steps already and you will come out the other side of this.

Change is the name of the game, nothing is permanent, not even this pain. ♡

Reddit user Pleasant_Planter (desisted female) comments on airline dress codes, citing a flamboyantly gay friend who faces no issues and questioning why only America and China enforce strict standards.
25 pointsApr 19, 2024
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This is not true. I have a very flamboyantly gay male friend who works airlines and its not been an issue for him.

Its so strange because America and China are the only places really enforcing these strange war-time dress standards for airline pilots, what's the deal with that?