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Reddit user /u/StayingCleanForme's Detransition Story

Transitioned: 13 -> Detransitioned: 18
male
low self-esteem
internalised homophobia
regrets transitioning
depression
influenced online
homosexual
puberty discomfort
started as non-binary
anxiety
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  • Personal, detailed history: They share a complex, multi-faceted personal narrative of growing up as a gender non-conforming gay male in a conservative region, exploring and then rejecting trans identification, and their struggles with mental health and social isolation.
  • Consistent worldview: Their perspective is consistently critical of gender ideology while also criticizing other movements like Men's Rights Activism, showing a nuanced, non-scripted viewpoint.
  • Emotional depth and reactivity: The comments express a range of genuine, strong emotions—anger, pain, bitterness, wariness—that align with the stated experiences of someone who has been harmed and is passionate about the topic. Their defensive and confrontational replies to suspected infiltrators are particularly human.
  • Internal logic: Their arguments are internally consistent, even when complex, and they reference specific cultural touchstones (e.g., femboy subculture, specific historical figures, platform demographics) that fit their described background.

This account exhibits the hallmarks of a genuine, highly engaged individual.

About me

I never fit in as a boy and found an answer online, believing I was a girl inside. My journey was fueled by confusion from puberty, internalized homophobia, and the trauma of being bullied for being feminine. I eventually saw the ideology as a trap and left it behind. Now, I am simply a gay male who doesn't conform to stereotypes, and I reject the idea of gender identity. My goal is to move somewhere I can finally live freely and be accepted for who I am.

My detransition story

My whole journey with this started because I never fit in as a boy. From the time I was a kid, my world was mostly women. My dad wasn't really around, so it was just me and my mom. All my friends in kindergarten were girls, I loved ballet and fashion, and people online always assumed I was a girl. It felt natural to me. When I got older and learned about being transgender, it seemed like an answer. I thought, maybe I’m a biological male with a female soul. That made sense for a while.

But it was a confusing time. I was deeply uncomfortable with puberty. I hated getting taller and growing facial and body hair. I developed anorexia as a teenager, which people called a "girl's disease," and that just reinforced the idea that I wasn't really a boy. I had no friends and spent all my time online, which is where I found trans communities. For a short time, around 13 or 14, I seriously wondered if I was a trans girl. But I never related to trans women. Their experiences felt foreign to me. What really started to turn me away was seeing so many normal heterosexual males start identifying as trans during the quarantine. And then seeing things like "euphoria boner" on trans forums was the final straw. It felt creepy and inauthentic.

I moved away from identifying as a trans girl and instead called myself non-binary, specifically a "demiboy femboy." This was between 15 and 17. I was deep into fandom culture, which was full of this ideology. But the femboy subculture itself felt predatory, aimed at young, vulnerable boys. Keeping up with the labels and the identity just became exhausting. Deep down, I’m a brutally honest person, and calling myself a girl while being male felt disingenuous. I knew it was bullshit.

A huge part of all this was my internalized homophobia. I’m gay, but I’ve never been able to tell anyone because of where I live. It’s a very conservative, homophobic place. I was bullied relentlessly by other boys for being feminine, even though I never wore makeup or feminine clothes. They could just tell. I was spat on, followed home, and threatened. All this pain came from other males. I think a lot of my desire to not be male was an escape from that violence and from the fear of being a gay man in my society.

I also struggled with depression, anxiety, and very low self-esteem. My only coping mechanism was perfecting my English online and dreaming of moving to America to start a new life. That dream is still what keeps me going, even if it feels impossible. I have no passion for college or a career, and I feel lost in adult life.

When I finally desisted around age 18, it wasn't a dramatic moment. It was a slow realization that gender ideology is a trap. I reject the idea of gender identity now. I’m just me. I’m a male human being with a mix of traits that people might call masculine or feminine. I feel spiritually non-binary in a way that has nothing to do with modern labels. I don't regret exploring my identity because it led me to where I am now, but I deeply regret ever buying into an ideology that I see as harmful. I believe we should change society so people don’t feel they need to mutilate their bodies to be accepted for who they are.

Here is a timeline of my journey:

My Age Event
Early Childhood Surrounded by women; my father was absent. My friends were all girls. I enjoyed ballet, fashion, and was perceived as feminine.
Around 12 Became a radical atheist. Became antisocial and struggled with self-esteem.
13-14 years old Developed anorexia. Started questioning my gender online, briefly identified as a trans girl. Felt disconnected from trans women.
15-17 years old Identified as non-binary ("demiboy femboy"). Was heavily involved in online fandom and trans communities. Began to seriously question gender ideology.
18 years old Officially desisted. Stopped identifying as trans or non-binary. Cut my long hair due to social pressure.
Present (After 18) Agnostic. Reject gender ideology. See myself as a gay male who is gender non-conforming. Focused on the goal of immigrating.

Top Comments by /u/StayingCleanForme:

43 comments • Posting since January 2, 2024
Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) explains how a group is deliberately hijacking the "detrans" tag on Tumblr with fetish content to scare away and silence actual detransitioners.
65 pointsOct 6, 2024
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it is not satire. it is entirely calculated and machiavellian.

they did this on purpose.

they purposefully hijacked the detrans tag on tumblr by filling it with gross fetish shit to scare away the actual detransitioners and create an unfamiliar, degrading environment in which they wouldn't feel comfortable enough to talk openly (they're trying to do the same thing with the terf/radfem tags, by using thousands of bot accounts to spam the tags and clutter them, but they're unsuccessful so far.)

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) comments on a roommate's situation, calling the trans-identified individual a "douchebag" and questioning his sexuality for dating a female friend.
47 pointsFeb 25, 2024
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jesus christ. pardon my language, but D sounds like a fucking D-ICK. there's not much to say here other than i hope your living situation will improve. as for harry, i'd encourage your friend to stand up for themself more and dump this overgrown freudian cheater manchild they're dating.

stuff like this is why i'm lowkey glad i gave up on having serious friendships when i was 12 💀 maybe being alone isn't so bad.

i would actually go insane if i were in your shoes.

also, i highly doubt D-ouchebag is actually gay if he's dating your ftm friend and was, at least at one point in the past, attracted to them. gay males aren't exactly attracted to female anatomy. it's just a fact, idgaf if it makes me transphobic to acknowledge that.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (detrans male) explains why detransitioners refuse to be respectful to trans rights activists who mock their existence.
30 pointsJan 17, 2024
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well, TRAs sure are detransphobic. if our mere existence infuriates them so much and they constantly go out of their way to mock us, why should we have to be the bigger person and be respectful to them?

they hate us because we threaten the sanctity of their ideology. the least we can do is have some integrity and refuse to humiliate ourselves in a poor effort to get them to accept us.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) comments on the lack of MTFTM detransitioner posts, explaining that biological males are generally bad at building support groups and articulating their thoughts.
27 pointsMar 19, 2024
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this may sound close-minded and unfair, but biological males are generally very bad at building support groups and communicating with one another.

there's a reason male-only spaces are so chaotic and unhinged. (my middle school class was absolutely deranged and animalistic)

most men nowadays have very low verbal intelligence and are HORRIBLE at articulating their thoughts, so they'd probably keep any thoughts pertaining to detransition in their heads. and, if they do detransition, they'd probably do it without telling anyone.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) comments on the two contradictory narratives used to dismiss detransitioners as either grifters or self-hating trans people in denial.
27 pointsOct 16, 2024
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i just "love" how they say that all detrans people are either grifters who were never trans in the first place or self-hating trans people who are in denial.

no in-between. always one or the other.

sometimes even both, and they just play ping-pong between which narrative to use when describing detransitioners, depending on how convenient it is given the context.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) explains that the feeling of being unsafe in the sub stems from a need to be coddled, arguing it's not the community's obligation to provide validation.
20 pointsMar 3, 2024
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no.

you just aren't used to not being coddled 100% of the time. i'm sorry, but the world does not revolve around you. you need to learn how to get over yourself and how to handle criticism & negative feedback.

it is not anybody's obligation to validate us.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) comments that a user sounds like an MRA, arguing that while GNC males face mistreatment, they are not collectively oppressed, and counters the false claim that butch lesbians are not assaulted by citing corrective rape.
20 pointsFeb 9, 2024
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uh, no offense, but you kinda sound like an MRA right now.

yes, atypical and gender non-conforming individuals of the male sex are often mistreated by other males, but you're implying males as a collective are oppressed. which we are not.

and what you said about butch lesbians not being assaulted is blatantly false. corrective rape is a terrible thing that unfortunately exists. i know dozens upon dozens of stories of gnc/butch lesbians being assaulted by straight men. it's real and it exists and it's terrible.

you shouldn't minimize the negative experiences of others to make your own negative experiences seem worse than theirs.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) explains the historical pressure on gay men to adopt third-gender roles and describes his personal identity as a spiritual non-binary paradox, feeling both and neither masculine nor feminine.
18 pointsFeb 27, 2024
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for most of history, homosexual males have been forced into third gender positions. that's just the way things were.

the hijras of india, the two-spirits of indigenous america, the bakla of the philippines, the list goes on and on.

i do feel spiritually non-binary, and nothing is ever going to change that.

masculinity does not come naturally to me, it has always felt artificial and forced the same way i imagine femininity must feel artificial for a lot of women. but i am also not fond of flaunting femininity because of the way society might respond to that.

i guess when it comes to femininity/masculinity, i am both & neither at the same time. a living paradox.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) explains the need for both sex-segregated and mixed detransitioner subreddits, arguing that a shared space fosters empathy and helps members see the value in their biological sex.
18 pointsFeb 18, 2024
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i can understand why some detransitioners may want sex-segregated communities — especially female detransitioners — and i think those subreddits should be made, BUT this subreddit should not be deleted.

there should be three options for detransitioners — a female-only detransitioner subreddit, a male-only detransitioner subreddit (this one could possibly be split into two; one for homosexual detrans males and one for heterosexual detrans males) and a mixed-sex detransitioner subreddit (AKA this one).

i feel like this subreddit is good and necessary because we can all learn something from each other. what we learn here is that the grass is always greener on the other side.

a male detransitioner can see that there are females out there who, at one point, wanted to be male — something he resented himself for. and as such, there is worth and value in being male, and he can accept his maleness. a female detransitioner can see that there are males out there who, at one point, wanted to be female — something she resented herself for. and as such, there is worth and value in being female, and she can accept her femaleness.

but maybe that's being too optimistic, considering there has been a rise in hostility on this subreddit recently.

also, this subreddit helped me a lot in developing empathy. it'll always be important to me for that reason.

Reddit user StayingCleanForme (desisted male) comments about a trans subreddit screenshotting and mocking detransitioners' posts.
16 pointsApr 16, 2024
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i believe it's also those people who are screenshotting our posts and comments & reposting them on trans subreddits where they openly mock and taunt us.

a CERTAIN deranged subreddit comes to mind. i can't say the name because it's against the rules, but if its users are reading this — you know who you are.

if i speak, i am in big trouble. 😶