Transition will let you down. Even though you've seen some successful trans people online, you will probably never fully pass and only become something halfway between two genders to the point where you can't find anybody except other trans people who want to date you or be your friend. You can't really transition to the other sex because you can't change your DNA.

The changes so far:

-more energy

-feeling more social and my social anxiety is definitely getting better

-better concentration in terms of schoolwork

-more motivated in terms of exercising and eating clean

-seems like some hairs are coming back along my receding hairline

-more emotions in general, although I still feel apathic a lot

-I do feel more angry and aggressive, which I didn't experience on T

Edit: almost forgot, but I also stopped feeling horny all the time and (expectedly) it takes longer to climax

I honestly wouldn't have dared to detransition if it wasn't for this sub. If I hadn't found it, I would be living a shit life. Depressed and alone. I really hope that this sub stays up. And I hope we can stay neutral. I am not sure if it is allowed to put up links in the sidebar, but a way to truly stay neutral could be to add resources where people can go to talk about GC or gender-affirming theory (this might be outside of reddit), to make it clear people can only talk about detransitioning here. On the other hand, sometimes theory ties in with detransitioning. It isn't hatespeech to talk about scoiety forcing young girls to hate themselves, sometimes resulting in transitioning while they don't even have gender dysphoria. This alone doesn't deny or affirm the existence of trans people. I hope reddit realizes that.

Tbh almost any girl with a typically masculine haircut will look more masculine. I used to pass pre-T on haircut alone. It's a lot easier for women to look like men than for men to look like women. That being said, you definitely look recognizably female. Your face changed a lot. I see a rounder face, fuller lips and feminine lines in your face (around the eyes and mouth). You are undeniably female. No need for FFS! It could permanently fuck up your face or your nerves. Also, it would be a shame to make permanent changes to your face. You look really good.

Well, it's not like we can just declare "It's society's problem" and leave it at that. It doesn't work that way. You have to live in that society. We are social animals and we need that social validation. We (at least people who've transitioned) all know what it's like when you don't pass or when you're midway between genders, when you don't really fall into one box. It's hell. You'll be looked at, people will avoid you, you make people uncomfortable. You'll only be able to socialize with other outcasts. and forget about relationships. I don't want to be a social outcast, so I do the work to change my body a bit. Everyone does that. People lose weight to be more attractive. Everyone changes parts of their personality in social settings. It's not a bad thing. People are supposed to live in groups. It's an evolutionary determined way of surviving: conform to the group or be an outcast and try to survive on your own (you won't). It just feels good to fit it with my actual gender again. I don't mind doing some work on my body to undo what T did. And I like seeing the success of my hard work. We'd all like to blame society and leave it at that but it just doesn't work that way. You still have to live in that body and connect with other people with that body.

I can't share any similar experiences because I am still at the beginning of detransitioning and haven't even started socially detransing but that must really suck. I am sorry this happened to you. As an ftmtf you basically get the mtf treatment. I only know from ftm experience that not passing sucks shit and makes you want to hide in your room 24/7. For me, it got so bad that I had to detransition, because I couldn't go out without obsessing over not passing. So I feel for you. That must suck. The only thing I can say to help is that some cis women who haven't had hormones also don't pass a lot of the time. I know some butch women who get mistaken for being male a lot, especially by older/foreign/conservative people, because they aren't aware that women can have short hair and look masculine too these days. You can also search for "deep voiced woman" or something similar on youtube. You'll find tons of stories of women with naturally low voices who get mistaken for being male on the phone all the time. I remember when I presented even a little masculine before T, I used to have a normal female voice, yet people mistook me for male all the time. Especially older people or people who weren't really paying attention. I would love that of course, because I identified as a man at the time. But it just shows how easy it is to be seen as a man by society.

That being said, if you really never want this to happen again, you can do voice training by following the resources over at r/transvoice. I am doing voice training right now because I want to be able to conjure up a female voice before I socially detransition. I don't wanna be seen as a trans woman because I know how society treats them. It's just shitty how we must change ourselves but I don't mind that much. I like that I have the power to change it back. It all depends on my own hard work so I work hard to get there. It helps with the guilt.

Agreed. I do think detransitioning and realizing you're not trans are sometimes tied to theory (like feminism) but this doesn't necessarily have to (dis)credit trans people. Detransition taken at face value is an entirely apolitical act. What political meaning others assign to it is their problem.

When will people understand it doesn't work like that. You don't want to be treated like a trans woman your entire life. You don't want to be called sir on the phone. You don't want to be stared at all the time. You don't want people to start addressing you with male pronouns when they hear you speak. You don't want to be scared to speak. You can completely accept yourself and your voice but people will keep treating you that way, and it is hell to go through. And if the fact that somebody feels the need to have surgery in order to change their voice doesn't tell you how bad it is out there if your voice is completely, undeniably male, while your appearance is clearly female, then that's your problem. People are allowed to make changes in order to feel good. I am not saying surgery is the answer because it is definitely not, but voice training will help this person overcome that social anxiety you feel when your voice doesn't match your appearance.

Sounding pretty good. You're in the androgynous zone for me and it would totally depend on who I'm seeing in front of me if I read you as male or female. Your intonation does put you on the female side, so that's good! If you really want some good constructive criticism and tips on how to be even better, you can post on /r/transvoice and say you're trying to sound female or that you're mtf. The trans women give very good criticism on there (but don't feel down when it's harsh, because they're hyperfocused on your voice they'll always have criticism on any voice, even if you're a cis female who has never gotten hormones).

You keep posting here but I think you gotta be a little more patient. If you want to see results from going off T you're not going to see them in a day. Take a few weeks off from thinking about how others perceive you. Obsessing about that is not healthy. Think about how you perceive yourself. Do you want to change something? Are you unhappy with something about yourself? If so, try to work on that particular thing. Take some time to explore what you want and then put in the time to make that happen. You want a more feminine voice? Go do voice training. You want to look more traditionally feminine or masculine? Put some time and effort into exercises that help you get there. I don't think posting here twice a day asking how others perceive you is very healthy. Why do you feel the need to know how others see you? Maybe this is in indication that you're not happy with yourself and you want something to change.