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Reddit user /u/ZealousidealEmploy69's Detransition Story

Transitioned: 25 -> Detransitioned: 26
female
low self-esteem
internalised homophobia
hated breasts
regrets transitioning
escapism
influenced online
homosexual
anxiety
doesn't regret transitioning
bisexual
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Based on the comments provided, the account appears to be authentic. There are no serious red flags indicating it is a bot or a bad-faith actor.

The user's comments demonstrate:

  • Personal, nuanced reflection: They share a complex, evolving, and deeply personal history with gender dysphoria, desistance, and body image, which is consistent with genuine lived experience.
  • Internal consistency: Their views on their own desistance, the nature of dysphoria, and their critique of gender ideology are logically consistent across multiple comments over a long period (2021-2023).
  • Appropriate engagement: They interact with others by offering supportive, detailed, and thoughtful advice based on their own experiences, which aligns with the passionate and often distressed tone common in the community.

The account shows the hallmarks of a real person who is a desister grappling with these issues.

About me

I'm a masculine woman who always wished I had been born male, mostly because I hated my female body. I almost transitioned after being influenced online, but I realized I was terrified of the actual physical changes testosterone would bring. I understood I was chasing an impossible ideal of a man, not a realistic outcome for me. Now, I've found peace by getting physically stronger and accepting myself as a woman who doesn't conform to stereotypes. My dysphoria is rare now, and I see gender as just social stereotypes we should reject.

My detransition story

My whole journey with gender started with a deep discomfort that I couldn't place for a long time. For as long as I can remember, I wished I had been born male. It wasn't about wanting to be treated like a man or to have male privilege; it was a specific, persistent feeling that my life would have been right if I had a cis male body. My biggest source of discomfort was my breasts; I really hated them. I didn't necessarily want male genitalia, but the idea of having a flat chest felt like it would solve a huge problem for me.

I spent a lot of time online, especially on places like Tumblr, and I can see now how much that influenced my thinking. I was exposed to a lot of people self-diagnosing and blogging about their mental health and gender struggles. I started internalizing a lot of those ideas, and things that weren't my problems before began to feel like they were. It made me feel insane, like I was losing my grip on what was really me.

I went through a period where I seriously considered transitioning. I thought about taking testosterone and getting top surgery. But every time I sat down and really thought about the actual, physical changes that would happen, I felt pure terror. I made a list: Did I want more body hair? No. Facial hair? Absolutely not. A deeper voice? My current voice didn't bother me, and I didn't want the typical "trans voice." A receding hairline? That would make me feel worse. Acne, body odour changes? More no's. The list went on. I realised that the body I wanted was an impossible fantasy—a tall, broad-shouldered cis man, which was nothing like my actual body. HRT wouldn't make me taller or change my bone structure. I realised I would just be trading one set of discomforts for another. Instead of being a woman uncomfortable with herself, I'd be a man uncomfortable with himself.

A big part of my confusion was trying to figure out what a "gender identity" even was. I kept hearing that cis people "identify" with their birth sex, but when I talked to my normie, liberal friends, they said they never thought about gender at all. Their answer to "why are you a woman/man?" was simply "because I was born one." That made me wonder if my dysphoria was just rooted in overthinking the whole concept of gender, something most people don't even question. Maybe the lack of a strong internal feeling about gender was the normal state, and I was pathologizing a common experience.

I also struggled with internalised ideas about what it means to be a woman. I'm a masculine woman, both in how I look and my personality. I'm bisexual with a preference for men, and I always felt alienated from my female peers because I couldn't relate to performing femininity. I felt like I was on the sidelines, watching other women live lives I couldn't access. For a while, I found comfort in accepting myself as a gender-nonconforming woman, but then I had a massive gender crisis around half a year ago, largely fueled by spending too much time online seeing other masculine women and butches identifying out of womanhood. It made me lose confidence in my own identity.

I think a lot of my feelings were also tied to low self-esteem, anxiety, and a form of escapism. I was deeply unhappy with my life circumstances, and the idea of transition offered a clear, albeit drastic, solution. It provided a narrative that explained my lifelong struggles: "Of course you felt like an outsider, you were supposed to be a man." It was a comforting story, even if it wasn't true for me.

I never went on hormones or had any surgery. I desisted. Over time, by being brutally honest with myself about what I actually wanted versus what was realistically possible, my dysphoria has become much more manageable. It still pops up occasionally, but it's rare now. Getting physically stronger through weight training has helped a lot; losing some weight made my chest and hips smaller, and feeling stronger gave me a sense of masculinity that felt right for me, without needing to change my body medically.

I don't regret exploring my gender, but I do regret the time and mental energy I spent obsessing over it, and I'm angry at myself for how much I was influenced by online spaces. My thoughts on gender now are very simple: I see men and women as simply adult human males and females. I don't believe in innate gender identities or souls. I think "gender" is just a set of social expectations and stereotypes that we should reject. I'm a woman because I'm female, and everything else is just my own personal style and how I choose to live my life.

Here is a timeline of my journey:

Age Event
Childhood Lifelong feeling of wishing I had been born male. Discomfort with breasts began.
Teens Felt alienated from female peers due to masculine interests and appearance.
Early 20s Active on Tumblr; heavily influenced by online mental health and gender discourse. Began internalizing others' experiences.
25 Major gender crisis. Seriously considered transition, researched HRT and top surgery.
25 Made a detailed list of HRT effects; realised I did not want the actual physical changes and was chasing an impossible fantasy.
26 Began to desist. Focused on weight training and getting stronger, which alleviated much of my physical dysphoria.
27 (Now) Largely at peace. Identify as a gender-nonconforming woman. Dysphoria is rare and manageable.

Top Reddit Comments by /u/ZealousidealEmploy69:

73 comments • Posting since September 16, 2021
Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) comments on the hypocrisy of a self-described gay man dating a female detransitioner.
75 pointsFeb 1, 2023
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So what I'm getting from this is that your boyfriend chooses to call himself gay, while dating you, a female person, who didn't even get much changes on testosterone? I'm sorry but this is so full of shit. I don't know why that heterosexual sex having man likes to roleplay as a gay man, which he isn't.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) comments on the backlash against a 2005 female-only event, questioning why women, particularly lesbians, can't have one thing for themselves when non-female-only events vastly outnumber them.
68 pointsJun 29, 2023
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It's so sad to me that already in 2005 (!) they were getting backlash for organizing a female only event. There are many events that aren't female-only, in fact, they vastly outnumber those that are. So why was it such a problem that women (and in large part lesbians) wanted this one thing for themselves? Because to me it looks like it's not enough that there are events where transwomen can attend, it's that there should be no events at all that are female-only.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains why the David Reimer case actually demonstrates the primacy of biological sex over gender identity.
56 pointsApr 13, 2023
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It's astounding to me that people will look at a case of a biological male being cognizant of the fact that he is a male despite other people lying to him that he was a girl, and think yeah, this proves that the immaterial concept that is gender is real. His biological sex prevailed but no, this is because of the magical boy soulTM. Be for real.

Poor boy.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) comments on the difference between personal style and gender expression, stating that choices like pants vs. skirts or hair length are just personal style, not an expression of gender.
48 pointsApr 13, 2023
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I don't get the concept of "gender expression" because any time I see people talking about it they're just... talking about personal style. I am not expressing any gender when I put on pants rather than a skirt, and neither do I do that when I grow my hair out or cut it; it's just style.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains their experience as a whistleblower from a gender clinic, detailing pressure to conform, a poor performance review, and their call for a moratorium on youth transition due to concerns over patient safety and lack of rigorous standards.
42 pointsFeb 9, 2023
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PART 4:

In all my years at the Washington University School of Medicine, I had received solidly positive performance reviews. But in 2021, that changed. I got a below-average mark for my “Judgment” and “Working Relationships/Cooperative Spirit.” Although I was described as “responsible, conscientious, hard-working and productive” the evaluation also noted: “At times Jamie responds poorly to direction from management with defensiveness and hostility.”

Things came to a head at a half-day retreat in summer of 2022. In front of the team, the doctors said that my colleague and I had to stop questioning the “medicine and the science” as well as their authority. Then an administrator told us we had to “get on board, or get out.”

The Washington University system provides a generous college tuition payment program for long-standing employees. I live by my paycheck and have no money to put aside for five tuitions for my kids. I had to keep my job. I also feel a lot of loyalty to Washington University.

But I decided then and there that I had to get out of the Transgender Center, and to do so, I had to keep my head down and improve my next performance review.

I managed to get a decent evaluation, and I landed a job coordinating research in another part of The Washington University School of Medicine. I gave my notice and left the Transgender Center in November of 2022.

What I Want to See Happen

For a couple of weeks, I tried to put everything behind me and settled into my new job.

Then I came across comments from Dr. Rachel Levine, a transgender woman who is a high official at the federal Department of Health and Human Services. The article read: “Levine, the U.S. assistant secretary for health, said that clinics are proceeding carefully and that no American children are receiving drugs or hormones for gender dysphoria who shouldn’t.”

I felt stunned and sickened. It wasn’t true. And I know that from deep first-hand experience.

So I started writing down everything I could about my experience at the Transgender Center. Two weeks ago, I brought my concerns and documents to the attention of Missouri’s attorney general. He is a Republican. I am a progressive. But the safety of children should not be a matter for our culture wars.

Click here to read Jamie Reed’s letter to the Missouri AG.

Given the secrecy and lack of rigorous standards that characterize youth gender transition across the country, I believe that to ensure the safety of American children, we need a moratorium on the hormonal and surgical treatment of young people with gender dysphoria.

In the past 15 years, according to Reuters, the U.S. has gone from having no pediatric gender clinics to more than 100. A thorough analysis should be undertaken to find out what has been done to their patients and why—and what the long-term consequences are.

There is a clear path for us to follow. Just last year England shut down the Tavistock Centre, the only youth gender clinic in the country, after an investigation revealed shoddy practices and poor patient treatment. Sweden and Finland, too, have investigated pediatric transition and greatly curbed the practice, finding there is insufficient evidence of help, and danger of great harm.

Some critics describe the treatment offered at places like the Transgender Center where I worked as a kind of national experiment. But that’s wrong.

Experiments are supposed to be carefully designed. Hypotheses are supposed to be tested ethically. The doctors I worked alongside at the Transgender Center said frequently about the treatment of our patients: “We are building the plane while we are flying it.” No child should be a passenger on that kind of aircraft.

***

Tonight at 6:00 p.m. PST we are hosting a conversation with Jamie Reed.

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Topic: FP Forum: A Conversation with Whistleblower Jamie Reed

When: Feb 9, 2023 6:00 p.m. Pacific Time (US and Canada)

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Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains that the feeling of not identifying with a gender is the baseline human experience, arguing that the concept of being nonbinary is flawed.
35 pointsFeb 7, 2023
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It's my third year of shredding my brain thinking about gender and whatnot, and honestly, what you describe is the baseline feeling. But deeply online people who alienated themselves to the degree that they don't know what's normal or common anymore somehow twisted this into being nonbinary/agender.

Look at it this way: regular-degular people who in no way shape or form participate in this discourse, when asked whether they're men or women will just answer according to their sex, like, what makes you a man/woman? Well, I was born one. There are no higher Manly/Womanly feelings they consult. It's just "I was born this or that".

The conclusion is that either the whole world is nonbinary/agender, therefore rendering these labels useless, or their whole concept is flawed since it takes baseline for extraordinary, therefore rendering these labels useless.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains why they reject the term "cis," arguing it implies an ideology of immanent gender identities they do not subscribe to.
35 pointsJun 23, 2023
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It's not a slur, but it's a language of a particular ideology, and if one doesn't subscribe to said ideology, what's the point of calling yourself that?

To explain it further: if I would say that I'm a cis woman, that would mean I agree with the concept of immanent gender idenitities, and that I identify as a woman (on top of being one biologically), therefore I am a woman. And I don't identify as anything. I just am - female. Rejecting the concept of gendered essences residing in individual people was a big part of me dealing with becoming dysphoric, actually. I use the word woman in its classic meaning: it means nothing more than the fact that I'm a female person.

Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains three misleading claims they were told about transition: that it's the only solution for dysphoria and suicide risk, that any dysphoria means you were "always trans," and the concept of "female brains in male bodies."
32 pointsJun 3, 2023
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  1. That there is nothing I can do about my dysphoria other than transitioning. In fact, not doing that puts me at the risk of eventual suicide.
  2. If I experience dysphoria, even if it's not something I experienced from the very beginning of my life, then I still somehow was trans all along.
  3. Female and male brains existing in respectively male and female bodies. Lol.
Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) comments on a gender clinic whistleblower article, detailing their experience at a pediatric transgender center, citing a lack of protocols, social contagion among teen girls, and permanent harm from rapid hormone treatments.
29 pointsFeb 9, 2023
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PART 1 (can't publish in one piece, it's too long):

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.

By Jamie Reed

February 9, 2023

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I am a 42-year-old St. Louis native, a queer woman, and politically to the left of Bernie Sanders. My worldview has deeply shaped my career. I have spent my professional life providing counseling to vulnerable populations: children in foster care, sexual minorities, the poor.

For almost four years, I worked at The Washington University School of Medicine Division of Infectious Diseases with teens and young adults who were HIV positive. Many of them were trans or otherwise gender nonconforming, and I could relate: Through childhood and adolescence, I did a lot of gender questioning myself. I’m now married to a transman, and together we are raising my two biological children from a previous marriage and three foster children we hope to adopt.

All that led me to a job in 2018 as a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital, which had been established a year earlier.

The center’s working assumption was that the earlier you treat kids with gender dysphoria, the more anguish you can prevent later on. This premise was shared by the center’s doctors and therapists. Given their expertise, I assumed that abundant evidence backed this consensus.

During the four years I worked at the clinic as a case manager—I was responsible for patient intake and oversight—around a thousand distressed young people came through our doors. The majority of them received hormone prescriptions that can have life-altering consequences—including sterility.

I left the clinic in November of last year because I could no longer participate in what was happening there. By the time I departed, I was certain that the way the American medical system is treating these patients is the opposite of the promise we make to “do no harm.” Instead, we are permanently harming the vulnerable patients in our care.

Today I am speaking out. I am doing so knowing how toxic the public conversation is around this highly contentious issue—and the ways that my testimony might be misused. I am doing so knowing that I am putting myself at serious personal and professional risk.

Almost everyone in my life advised me to keep my head down. But I cannot in good conscience do so. Because what is happening to scores of children is far more important than my comfort. And what is happening to them is morally and medically appalling.

The Floodgates Open

Soon after my arrival at the Transgender Center, I was struck by the lack of formal protocols for treatment. The center’s physician co-directors were essentially the sole authority.

At first, the patient population was tipped toward what used to be the “traditional” instance of a child with gender dysphoria: a boy, often quite young, who wanted to present as—who wanted to be—a girl.

Until 2015 or so, a very small number of these boys comprised the population of pediatric gender dysphoria cases. Then, across the Western world, there began to be a dramatic increase in a new population: Teenage girls, many with no previous history of gender distress, suddenly declared they were transgender and demanded immediate treatment with testosterone.

I certainly saw this at the center. One of my jobs was to do intake for new patients and their families. When I started there were probably 10 such calls a month. When I left there were 50, and about 70 percent of the new patients were girls. Sometimes clusters of girls arrived from the same high school.

This concerned me, but I didn’t feel I was in the position to sound the alarm back then. There was a team of about eight of us, and only one other person brought up the kinds of questions I had. Anyone who raised doubts ran the risk of being called a transphobe.

The girls who came to us had many comorbidities: depression, anxiety, ADHD, eating disorders, obesity. Many were diagnosed with autism, or had autism-like symptoms. A report last year on a British pediatric transgender center found that about one-third of the patients referred there were on the autism spectrum.

Frequently, our patients declared they had disorders that no one believed they had. We had patients who said they had Tourette syndrome (but they didn’t); that they had tic disorders (but they didn’t); that they had multiple personalities (but they didn’t).

The doctors privately recognized these false self-diagnoses as a manifestation of social contagion. They even acknowledged that suicide has an element of social contagion. But when I said the clusters of girls streaming into our service looked as if their gender issues might be a manifestation of social contagion, the doctors said gender identity reflected something innate.

To begin transitioning, the girls needed a letter of support from a therapist—usually one we recommended—who they had to see only once or twice for the green light. To make it more efficient for the therapists, we offered them a template for how to write a letter in support of transition. The next stop was a single visit to the endocrinologist for a testosterone prescription.

That’s all it took.

When a female takes testosterone, the profound and permanent effects of the hormone can be seen in a matter of months. Voices drop, beards sprout, body fat is redistributed. Sexual interest explodes, aggression increases, and mood can be unpredictable. Our patients were told about some side effects, including sterility. But after working at the center, I came to believe that teenagers are simply not capable of fully grasping what it means to make the decision to become infertile while still a minor.

Side Effects

Many encounters with patients emphasized to me how little these young people understood the profound impacts changing gender would have on their bodies and minds. But the center downplayed the negative consequences, and emphasized the need for transition. As the center’s website said, “Left untreated, gender dysphoria has any number of consequences, from self-harm to suicide. But when you take away the gender dysphoria by allowing a child to be who he or she is, we’re noticing that goes away. The studies we have show these kids often wind up functioning psychosocially as well as or better than their peers.”

There are no reliable studies showing this. Indeed, the experiences of many of the center’s patients prove how false these assertions are.

Here’s an example. On Friday, May 1, 2020, a colleague emailed me about a 15-year-old male patient: “Oh dear. I am concerned that [the patient] does not understand what Bicalutamide does.” I responded: “I don’t think that we start anything honestly right now.”

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Reddit user ZealousidealEmploy69 (desisted) explains concerning practices at a gender clinic, including prescribing hormones for non-dysphoric patients, overriding parental consent, and ignoring detransition cases like a teen who regretted her mastectomy.
28 pointsFeb 9, 2023
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PART 3:

Somewhere along the way, he expressed a desire to become female, so he ended up being seen at our center. From there, he went to a psychologist at the hospital who was known to approve virtually everyone seeking transition. Then our doctor recommended feminizing hormones. At the time, I wondered if this was being done as a form of chemical castration.

That same thought came up again with another case. This one was in spring of 2022 and concerned a young man who had intense obsessive-compulsive disorder that manifested as a desire to cut off his penis after he masturbated. This patient expressed no gender dysphoria, but he got hormones, too. I asked the doctor what protocol he was following, but I never got a straight answer.

In Loco Parentis

Another disturbing aspect of the center was its lack of regard for the rights of parents—and the extent to which doctors saw themselves as more informed decision-makers over the fate of these children.

In Missouri, only one parent’s consent is required for treatment of their child. But when there was a dispute between the parents, it seemed the center always took the side of the affirming parent.

My concerns about this approach to dissenting parents grew in 2019 when one of our doctors actually testified in a custody hearing against a father who opposed a mother’s wish to start their 11-year-old daughter on puberty blockers.

I had done the original intake call, and I found the mother quite disturbing. She and the father were getting divorced, and the mother described the daughter as “kind of a tomboy.” So now the mother was convinced her child was trans. But when I asked if her daughter had adopted a boy’s name, if she was distressed about her body, if she was saying she felt like a boy, the mother said no. I explained the girl just didn’t meet the criteria for an evaluation.

Then a month later, the mother called back and said her daughter now used a boy’s name, was in distress over her body, and wanted to transition. This time the mom and daughter were given an appointment. Our providers decided the girl was trans and prescribed a puberty blocker to prevent her normal development.

The father adamantly disagreed, said this was all coming from the mother, and a custody battle ensued. After the hearing where our doctor testified in favor of transition, the judge sided with the mother.

I raised my concerns about parental rights and consent in emails like this one:

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‘I Want My Breasts Back’

Because I was the main intake person, I had the broadest perspective on our existing and prospective patients. In 2019, a new group of people appeared on my radar: desisters and detransitioners. Desisters choose not to go through with a transition. Detransitioners are transgender people who decide to return to their birth gender.

The one colleague with whom I was able to share my concerns agreed with me that we should be tracking desistance and detransition. We thought the doctors would want to collect and understand this data in order to figure out what they had missed.

We were wrong. One doctor wondered aloud why he would spend time on someone who was no longer his patient.

But we created a document anyway and called it the Red Flag list. It was an Excel spreadsheet that tracked the kind of patients that kept my colleague and me up at night.

One of the saddest cases of detransition I witnessed was a teenage girl, who, like so many of our patients, came from an unstable family, was in an uncertain living situation, and had a history of drug use. The overwhelming majority of our patients are white, but this girl was black. She was put on hormones at the center when she was around 16. When she was 18, she went in for a double mastectomy, what’s known as “top surgery.”

Three months later she called the surgeon’s office to say she was going back to her birth name and that her pronouns were “she” and “her.” Heartbreakingly, she told the nurse, “I want my breasts back.” The surgeon’s office contacted our office because they didn’t know what to say to this girl.

My colleague and I said that we would reach out. It took a while to track her down, and when we did we made sure that she was in decent mental health, that she was not actively suicidal, that she was not using substances. The last I heard, she was pregnant. Of course, she’ll never be able to breastfeed her child.

‘Get On Board, Or Get Out’

My concerns about what was going on at the center started to overtake my life. By spring 2020, I felt a medical and moral obligation to do something. So I spoke up in the office, and sent plenty of emails.

Here’s just one example: On January 6, 2022, I received an email from a staff therapist asking me for help with a case of a 16-year-old transgender male living in another state. “Parents are open to having patient see a therapist but are not supportive of gender and patient does not want parents to be aware of gender identity. I am having a challenging time finding a gender affirming therapist.”

I replied: “I do not ethically agree with linking a minor patient to a therapist who would be gender affirming with gender as a focus of their work without that being discussed with the parents and the parent agreeing to that kind of care.”

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