It not just promotes the idea that people have to change and imitate the sex they aren't to be themselves, but also encourages self-harm as a liberating affirmation.

Even as a trans person myself I see how flawed that is. People don't talk enough about inevitable health issues that come with medical transitioning. It's the last resort out of painful despair, not self-acceptance.

If only gender weren't a thing and sex hadn't been attributed more social meaning than a blood group then it'd be truly liberating and progressive.

I'm sorry for you. I met a few people who got irreversibly damaged by puberty blockers even after they cancelled them, but this experienced is being silenced because it blows the cover of the 'they're perfectly reversible and safe and minors can actually consent to them!' rhetoric.

Nonconforming teenagers are like one of the most vulnerable groups, people who struggle with accepting their sex need psychotherapy, not medical abuse.

Only non-indoctrinated adults who analyzed themselves and tried to make a change but couldn't get rid of their persistent desire to transition are capable of giving informed consent to transition, the others are victims of woke propaganda and parental/social neglect who weren't helped by others when they needed it the most.

So many mental and social issues get undressed because you're not allowed to question them, it's so easy to frame them as 'just being born trans' without analyzing how, when and why did you start feeling icky about your sex and associating yourself with the opposite one.

And if you managed to change your perception of yourself and the sexes in general and to feel neutral or even happy about your sex, then all your past trans experience will be denied and erased, even if you felt and thought and behaved in exact same way like the ones who still are 'the true trans'.

Suddenly it doesn't really matter and you never actually understood them (even when they said they can relate to your experience and you're one of them when you still believed in gender ideology and let your deep issues unaddressed).

It's so fucked up and insane.

For real.

They just think the should have the right to be perceived as male/female just like people who actually are male/female, and they think it's unfair that men are seen as men while trans-identifying women aren't and that women are seen as women while trans-identifying men aren't.

They think it's unfair that they can't get everything what the opposite sex has, like bathrooms that are meant for it.

But there's no actual discrimination involved, it's just that they intensely wish to be something they aren't and the constant social reminder they aren't who they wanted to be hurts them.

Yet it's not others problem that they don't play along, it's trans-identifying people's problem that needs to be addressed by psychotherapy and actual social support instead of affirmation that they're sex is wrong and should be changed.

Yeah, these rhetoric has harmed trans rights so badly... I'm glad there still exist people like Buck Angel who don't promote sex denial and gender identity stuff. I wish people would consider trans women as trans women and trans men as trans men, treat those who live stealth/try not to bother others respectfully and acknowledging biological reality not being considered transphobic. Most people don't take actual transphobia seriously anymore because some radical activists consider everything transphobic.

Right? It's not a 'cis privilege' to be recognized as the sex you are. It's something they have as well. The actual discrimination would be to recognize everyone's sex the way it is but make an exception for trans-identifying people and deny their biology.

I'm sorry this harmful cult encourages sick practises and gaslighting, but whenever the victims talk about their harm it's always their responsibility because “You knew what you're going for”. Fuck, no, most people who “transition” don't know it's not the cure they need, because you, queer identifying ppl who say that, are the ones who actively tell it's a medical necessity and the only way to be yourself and happy.

Spot on💯

They say 'but race isn't gender', but there exists the concept of racial xenogenders now as well, lol. People can identify as anything, it just won't mean they actually are.

There exist different men and women, with different feelings, desires and needs, they can't be generalized.

If a male is deep down a female just because he wishes he had female puberty, if that's the criteria of womanhood, then those actual women who struggled with puberty or even hated it suddenly aren't women anymore.

Gender ideologists can't give any clear-cut and universal criteria of manhood/womanhood that would encompass not only 'trans men/women' but also all the different kinds of actual men/women.

If a person wants their arm to be cut off, would you support the legalisation of this procedure too? I don't mean it aggressively, I'm just curious where and why do you draw the line between acceptable body autonomy and unacceptable physical harm. Realistically we can't ban anything that's harmful, like alcohol for example, but extreme bodymods officially performed by others seems kinda too much to me, although I can't support transition ban for adults because I deeply understand what's gender dysphoria like from experience.

I believed gender was a psychosocial yet objective phenomenon in a similar way as personality in general. I thought it's nonsensical to claim gender is innate just like it is nonsensical to claim your identity as a whole is innate, yet I didn't accept the view that gender is totally made-up either because I thought this pov doesn't align with my lived experience and such of many other people (in fact it turned out there are better frameworks that explain the “cis” and “trans” phenomenon more accurate instead of suggesting someone's just a certain “gender”).

Being a trans man meant to me subjectively experiencing the life from a male perspective, even if my body wasn't male. I thought of myself as a man, I felt in my place only when referred in masculine pronouns and a masculine name, I enjoyed imagining myself with a male body and was borderline suicidal about having a female body instead, I genuinely adapted toxic masculinity because of thinking of myself as a male and hanging out in communitues that uphold patriarchal gender norms instead of encouraging gender abolitionism, I thought “terfs” are just uneducated bigots that don't understand I explained myself enough in order to be seen and accepted as an actual male that needs to transition in order to self-actualize and get rid of dysphoria.

Things started changing when most of the trans identifying or supporting people started suggesting you don't need to associate with the opposite sex and don't need to transition in order to be trans, that you can be whatever you call yourself regardless of your experience and biology, and when I wasn't welcome in transmed spaces because of understanding gender is not only biological but also a social phenomenon that couldn't exist without people being exposed to both men and women to associate themselves with one category or another in the first place.

I witnessed insane gaslighting from both transmed and tucute sides, I saw how basic biological facts like the binarity of the human sex was systematically denied, I saw how feminists wgo wanted to fight for female privacy were physically assaulted for expressing their thoughts in a civil way, and I realized I couldn't genuinely believe I was indeed male without social validation from those who turned out to be out of touch with reality.

I realized I couldn't identify as a man so that it would actually make sense just like I couldn't identify as a black when my body is actually white. I found desisters and detransitioners who experienced the same and sometimes even worse gender dysphoria than me yet managed to get rid of the opposite sex identity once they changed the sexist way they viewed men and women and realized sex is immutable.

It took time to accept the truth and work on my misogynistic perception of womanhood and female people, and now I'm sex-neutral and gender critical.

That's how it was for me.

Not a lesbian, but a female preferring bisexual woman. Tbh I miss the times when I thought of myself as het guy too. I know it's objectively not true that girls will love me only if I'll be a man, but sometimes it actually hurts to realize they won't be attracted to me like to a man.