It's likely that your voice will start to be read by others as female eventually, even though it won't sound exactly the same as before T. If you are unhappy with your voice, you can try some of the techniques from this guide which is primarily for trans women. Even people who've fully gone through male puberty are able to get voices that are perceived as female, so I don't think you'll have a problem. I don't know a ton about VFS except that it's got a bad reputation, and I'd be pretty surprised if you needed it.

(disclaimer that I'm not detrans, but I'm sorta knowledgeable in this area so I thought I'd help)

If you feel good taking mtf hrt but you don't want to transition, that's fine, you can just do that. SERMs like raloxifene are an option for preventing breast growth, if that's a concern for you. I think it often seems like "transition" is an all-or-nothing thing, but it really isn't. If you aren't/don't want to be trans, but you just like how you feel on estrogen, that's fine. That's an option. You are free to pursue your own happiness, and anything that is holding you back from that is not worth devoting mental energy to.

Of course you can/should also talk to a therapist, telling them what you think your problems are and how you'd like them to be solved, and see what they say. But remember that even if a therapist says something like "I think you're trans; you should transition, and I think you'd be happier if I called you 'she'", it is within your power to just say, like... "no, fuck off". You get to decide what to do, based on what you think might be best for you, at every stage.

hey, uh, don't listen to this person. you can see on that forum they linked to, they are a eugenicist. their ultimate goal is to have more "fertile women" to have the kids of men who are "genetically suitable for reproduction". they also think men who aren't "genetically suitable" should transition to be trans women, which you can see them advocating in their post history on reddit.

I don't normally do this type of callout post shit, but this person is actually insane. so I thought I'd let you know.

Wait, are you even detrans? Don't you mod a trans sub?

Edit: jfk this person is an incel who transitioned because it's supposedly better to be a woman in society than a "failed man". and they run an online eugenicist cult called vintologi. Here is something they posted in January of last year. So uh, maybe don't join this discord server.

First of all, get off of /lgbt/. That place will melt your brain.

Second, you can't compare yourself to cis women. Your choice isn't neovagina or vagina, it's neovagina or no vagina. Distressing that you'll never be xx is understandable, but isn't productive.

I'd much rather be cured of dysphoria than pushed into this delusional lifestyle where I stress out about makeup and surgeries that won't make me pass anyway

Maybe try this blog and see if it speaks to you. Most people's experience is that dysphoria doesn't ever just go away, but you can still find strategies to manage it.

It sounds like our experiences of dysphoria are kinda similar. I also can't stand the thought of being male, and being seen as male. I've found that I prefer to be seen as a GNC male/non-passing trans women rather than a regular guy. I almost never pass, so those are my options. When I boymode I feel like I'm hiding, so I kinda just present however I want, and fuck anyone who has a problem.

I'd be a bit careful about taking advice from this place, btw, since it's overwhelmingly FtMtFs. Detrans men and women have very different problems and experiences, and the motivations to transition/detransition are often not directly comparable. Of the (few) detrans men I've seen, it seems like most of them either 1) go off hormones and call themselves autogynephiles, or 2) stay on hormones and call themselves GNC men.

That person is right, but they're explaining it very badly.

The main determiner of vocal gender is not pitch, contrary to popular belief. It's actually your resonance, which is determined by the amount of open space between your vocal chords and your lips. Anyone whose voice has been affected by T, can train to shrink that space, and have a voice that sounds female. This video explains it more in depth, if you're interested. That whole channel is a great resource for that, actually.

I'm exmormon, and the dynamic between Mormon/exmormon communities is really similar to trans/detrans in my experience. There are a lot of exmormons who turn into full militant atheists, which is understandable given where they're coming from, but it makes it really difficult for questioning Mormons to engage with exmormon communities. Similarly, many detransitioners find themselves allied with right-wingers and GC folks, and so pick up some of their rhetoric. It's understandable, especially since this is a support-group type of place, but it does make detrans communities somewhat hostile to trans people.

And there's also the dynamic where detrans voices are often suppressed, or co-opted for right-wing agendas. There's a huge diversity of thought among detransitioners, much of which would be beneficial to trans people if they'd engage with it. (It's definitely been beneficial to me, especially your writing in particular, A. Sorry if that's weird to say.) Most trans people's idea of detransitioners is "Guess I'm actually cis, turns out I was wrong, whoops" which just does not match reality. But it's hard to recommend a trans person read a subreddit like this when 1/4 of the comments are just empty trans hate. It's a problem that I know frustrates a lot of detrans people as well.